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| Exum family Crest |
Axum Turner was apparently the oldest son of James Turner, who died in Anson County in 1843. I designate him in that way because there were more than one James Turner in Anson County during the 1800's. Another died in 1818, had married Lucy Waddell and has a well-documented family. Our line of Turners have not been well documented. It is also claimed that the first name of Jaspar Melchor Turner was James, and that Jaspar was a nickname that set him apart from the other James's.
I'm getting a little ahead of myself by posting the Exum family Crest at the top of this post, but my research precedes my posting, so I've already determined that the Axum and Exum family were the same folks. In fact, I've seen in spelled Exum, Exam, Axum, Axom, Axiom, Axion, ad infinitum.
And the fact that James Turner named his oldest son "Axum" is no coincidence.
| Name: | Aaron Turner [Axom or Axum Turner] [Aom Turner] |
|---|---|
| Home in 1830 (City, County, State): | Anson, North Carolina |
| Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: | 2 |
| Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9: | 1 |
| Free White Persons - Males - 30 thru 39: | 1 |
| Free White Persons - Females - Under 5: | 2 |
| Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: | 1 |
| Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 14: | 2 |
| Free White Persons - Females - 30 thru 39: | 1 |
| Free White Persons - Under 20: | 8 |
| Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: | 2 |
| Total Free White Persons: | 10 |
| Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored): | 10 |
The only census record that Axum appears in is the 1830 census of Anson County. Therein , Axum appears to be the only adult male and between 30 and 39 years of age, with a wife in the same age group. That would put him being born between 1790 and 1800.
He has 8 children in the household:
Two girls between 10 and 14 or born between 1816 and 1820. One girl and one boy 5 to 9, or born between 1821 and 1825 and two boys and two girls under 5, or born between 1825 and 1830.
The earliest mentions of Axum Turner in the Anson County land records are in a few deeds involving relatives. On January 15, 1810, when he witnesses a sell of 2 tracts, one of 50 acres on Lane's Creek Road bordering the Lane's creek tract and Jack's Branch and another of 250 acres, between Richard Allen to James Turner, Axum's father, along with Paul Allen. Then again on August 6, 1811, when he witnesses another transaction between John Kendall to his father, James Turner. This one was for 100 acres on Jack's Branch, described as a prong of Brown Creek, and began at a white oak in John Drew's line, joined Whitmill Eason's corner, crossed Jack's Branch, and joined Eason's spring. This was signed by John Kendall and witnessed by Axum Turner & Hamilton West. It was proved in court several years later, in October of 1819 by Axum Turner, Book S, Page 412.
But the very first mention of Axum that I have so far found was in a transaction between Barnabas Porter and William Threadgill, both of Anson. For $68, he sold 60 acres on the east side of Jack's Branch, that began at Dennis McLendon's turkey oak, and joined Lanier, Pope, & Lemuel Ingram. Signed by 'Barnaby' Porter and witnessed by Benjamin Boykin and Axum Turner.
Axum would have been a young man then, perhaps 20 or 21. The connection to the Drew and Threadgill family, particularly that of one Hull Threadgill was an ongoing theme. The Dennis McLendon tract is mentioned often. The Kendall's and Allen's are mentioned occasionally. The Carpenter family, especially that of William and his son Allen, were also closely interconnected to the family of James Turner. But it was Axum and only Axum, particularly, who was connected to Barnaby Porter. And with the Porters, who I will look at more closely later, the names of Pope and Boykin are a reocurring theme. Not only those, but another as well, Axum (or Exum), as the spellling seems completely interchangeable.
The War of 1812 is one modern Americans do not seem to recall much or celebrate in any way, but it was a major player in mass migrations. Known as the Second War of Independence, it was fought between the USA and the UK and their allies and lasted from June of 1812 until February of 1815. The spark of the War was economic sanctions that had been taken against the US by England and France as part of the Napoleanic Wars. British ships were continually seizing American ships that were trading with France and imprisoning and forced recruitment of American soldiers. The war ended in 1815 with the signing of the Treaty of Ghent.
Axum Turner was one of the many young men called into service at this time. He served as a Private in Captain Lanier's Company of the North Carolina Militia.
Another factor in the War of 1812 involved Native Americans and their natural and rightful resistance to giving up territory to the increasing growth of the European settlement of America. Several battles occured from North to South. One of these involved the Creek, which is most likely the battles that Axum Turners may have taken part in, from what I can determine.
The Treaty of Fort Jackson ended the Creek Wars and resulted in lands ceded in Alabama and Southwestern Georgia. Many soldiers who participated in the War of 1812 recieved Land Bounties for their service in these areas. Some left rather quickly, others, like Axum Turner, did not, but remained in Anson for some time after their service, waiting for safer settlement to occur before moving his family there.
Axum began purchasing his own land in Anson County in 1821. In Book T, Page 353, there's recorded a sell from Reddick Drew to Axum Turner, both of Anson County, NC, for $700.50, a tract of 75 acres, that bordered a second survey of 150 acres. It was signed by Reddick Drew and witnessed by M W Mask. The property of the Drew family had long bordered that of the James Turner family, beginning with John Drew, father of Reddick. Reddick would marry Martha Turner, Axum's younger sister, sometime in late 1850 or early 1851.
In July of 1823, Sheriff Joseph Medley possessed to sell to a Grove W. May, for only $2.56, 140 acres on Jack's Branch, that began at John Drew's corner, and joined the properties of Kendall, Morris and Ball, with the exception of the 75 acres sold by Reddick Drew to Axum Turner which began at a small post oak and joined James Turner "due to and execution for $23.71 from Anson County Pleas and Quarters Sessions Court by William Marshall against Redick Drew & Thomas B Drew for $20.91 principal which was secured by William Marshall against Reddick Drew & Thomas B. Drew."
It was sold it said, because no goods or chattels were found. Reddick and Thomas B Drew were the sons of John Drew. They had obviously gotten themselves in debt and had no property or production of goods to show for it. Thomas B Drew would soon thereafter load his family up and move to Georgia.
He, too, was a veteran of the War of 1812. I don't believe Reddick Drew served in the military in any capacity. I found a document on a Dependant Pension Application for Florida Wars, and believe this was most likely concerning his nephew, also named Reddick Drew, that was a son of Thomas B Drew.
But notice how cheap the Drew brothers property sold, $23.71 for 140 acres compared to the $700.50 that Axum had paid for just 75 acres. This left Reddick Drew (or Red or Reddie as he was sometimes seen) with just 10 acres to his name to live on, but he was not a man without a plan.
In 1825, Axum Turner recieved his own Grant from the Governor of North Carolina. On December 14th of that year by Grant of Governor H.G. Burton, Grant no. 2777, for $10 for every 100 acres granted 100 acres that began at Joshua Brooks corner pine and joined James Barber & Lick Branch. It was signed by the Govenor and witnessed by Secretary Hill.
Axum Turner was still in Anson County up until January 5th of 1832. At that time he was mentioned in the deed of 11 acres from William Carpenter to his father, James Turner, that bordered the property of Axum (James Turner's son) and Allen Carpenter (William's son).
After that time, Axum acted on his Land Bounty for his service in the War of 1812.
By 1837, he had settled in Sumter County, Alabama. The document states that Gains Whitfield, an " Assignee of Axum Turner" deposited in the Land Office at Deompolis, Alabama, a certificate, paid in full, "according to the provisions act of Congress of the 24th of April 1820", concerning the sale of Public Lands. The description was for the "north half of the Southeast quarter of Section 32 in Township 16 of Range Two West in the District of Lands suject to sale at Demopolis, Alabama, containing 79 acres and 38 hundreds of an acre.
This is the last trace of Axum Turner. But as you can see by the 1830 census of Anson County, he had a young wife and a sizable family. So it was NOT the end of the family of Axum Turner.
Take note that the rest of this post is based on fragments of information and circumstantial evidence.
Adding 2 + 2, family connections, and my research is nowhere near complete, and may never be.
So, dear reader, don't take any of my assumptions as fact. This family is POSSIBLY that of Axum Turner, but the circumstantial evidence is pretty strong. This is my theory.
Axum Turner is not to be found in the 1840 census of Sumter County, Alabama. Or anywhere, for that matter, although we know he moved there by 1937. So the question is: Was there a widow Turner with several children found in the 1840 census of Sumter County, Alabama?
The answer is, there was. And to cement who was who, we have to look at 1850 first, 1840 second, and then fast forward to the 1855 state census of Sumter County, Alabama.
The above record shows Patience Turner, born in SC, with 7 of her children, born in NC. But she is not the only Patience Turner in Sumter County, Alabama at this time.
This older Patience Turner is identified as Patience Dickenson Turner. She is living with the Seth Little family and she was born in NC. The Moffat children interest me because of my Winfield connection to Moffatts, especially being in Alabama.
This older Patience Turner lived alone in 1840 with 4 slaves. She died in 1851, and left a will. She was the widow of a Mathew Turner, and her family is well documented. I have not looked to see if there is a connection between this group of Turners and our Anson County group of Turners, but it is possible.
Patience Dickenson Turner has a Find-a-grave link.
She was the daughter of Shadrack Dickenson and Keziah Sims of Wayne County, NC, leading back to Bertie County, NC. Many a descendant of the younger Patience Turner have them merged into the same person in attempts to climb an easy tree, but they were clearly two very different women.
This is what the family of the younger Patience Turner looked like in 1840.
To top that off, the younger Patience Turner is mentioned in the land surveys. Patience recieved her grant on March 30, 1837, while Axum's was executed 10 days earlier on March 20, 1837. He may have died along the trip actually, or at least, shortly after arriving in Alabama.
Axum's was dated March 20, 1837. Patience's was dated March 30, 1837. Ten days apart. Could he have died in between these 10 days?
Now to compare the family of Patience Turner in 1840 with the family of Axum Turner in 1830.
And that of Axum in 1830
Now to add names:
Only Charlotte not born yet.
Now to 1840 in Alabama:
I jumped a little ahead adding Rebecca. Rebecca married in neighboring Choctaw County in 1848, before the 1850 census. She later travels to Texas with the surviving Turners and lives next to them. She was a Turner. The Texas Turners include her as one of them, therefore, no arguement. I have included her too.
The land fits. The family dynamics fits, although I've not been able to identify the older daughter or daughters who died or married prior to 1850.
Other circumstantial evidence that this family come from 2 sources: Attachment to Anson County and names. Two in particular: Threadgill and Axom.
First- Axum or Axom.
In the 1860 census of Sumter County Alabama, the 3 single Turner sisters, Penelope, Susan and Polly, are seen living alone with another adult female Turner named Eliza and 4 young children:
Other Turner descendants had figured out that this Eliza was the widow of one of the Turner brothers, althought they were not sure who. William P was already married and so had youngest daughter, Charlotte.
The 1855 State Census gives us a little hint at who that was. We know it wasn't William P., as he survived and his family is found through 1900.
The Alabama State Census did not name everyone in the household, much like the Federal censuses of 1840 and prior. They listed the "Individual or Head of Household". Following were columns for:
White males over 21:
White males under 21:
White females over 21:
White females under 21:
Total:
Insane persons:
Slaves:
Free People of Color:
Total All.
Patience is still living in 1855. We know it is our Patience because the other, older Patience Dickson Turner passed away in 1851. In her household is listed one male over 21, although she is the Head of Household. This indicates a son or an employee. Then, one female over 21, one under 21, with a first total of 3, one slave, with a final total of 4.
Next to her is her son James. In his household are 2 males over 21, one male under 21, 1 female under 21 and one over. Both totals of 5 individuals.
William P and D. L Turner are also both counted as "Individuals or Heads of Household". Both of them are counted as One Male over 21 and no other persons. Their totals are one. Of note, near them also is a C. F. Threadgill.
This means that in 1855, Patience, James and Doctor Louis Turner are still living. James appears to have married and has 2 children. Willliam P. has not yet married.
Back to the name Axom. The widow and children in the 1860 census were the widow and children of James A. Turner. The children were listed as N.A., John W. , Mary and James. The descendants of John W and James seem to have taken no interest in "N. A." and Mary, and that was a mistake. While their descendants seem to have no clue who Eliza's husband was, the descendants of the other two had it all figured out.
The N turned out to be a transcription error. The child grew up and his name was William Axom Turner. He died some time between 1900 and 1910. He married Mary Jane Elizabeth Corder and they had 9 children, 4 of whom made it to adulthood. The Corder's were very intermarried with this branch of the Turner family tree. Their adult children lived into the time of death certificates and his descendants knew his middle name. They all, along with the other descendants of Axom Turner, all migrated from Sumter County, Alabama to Houston County, Texas. The descendants of William Axom (spelled "Azom" in some of the descendants trees) and of his sister, Mary Louise, also record his father's name as "James Axom Turner" and James's wife as "Eliza Threadgill".
The Threadgill Connection.
The records of the children of James Axom and Eliza Turner indicated that Eliza's maiden name was Threadgill. Recalling back the land records of my ancestor James Turner in Anson County, NC, father of Axom, grandfather of James Axom, Threadgill was a name that popped up often. His property adjoined that of a Hull Threadgill.
This is not the only time the name "Threadgill" comes up in the Sumter County, Alabama Turners.
The Galveston Daily News
Galveston, Texas06 Jun 1880, Sun • Page 4
Name
Charlotte Turner
Spouse
Wm H Threadgill
Marriage Date
24 Mar 1857
County
Sumter
State
Alabama
Performed by Name
Thomas Killough
Source Information
Jordan Dodd, Liahona Research
In 1857, in Sumter County, the youngest daughter of Patience Turner (And Axom Turner), Charlotte, marries a young man named William Hull Threadgill.
William Hull Threadgill was also from Anson County, NC. To be specific, He was a son of the Hull Threadgill who was a neighbor of James Turner of Anson County. Hull Threadgill Sr., said to be Joshua Hull Threadgill died in 1872 in Anson County. The following excerpts are from his will:
"S H Gaddy applies for letters of administration on the estate of Hull Threadgill, on the request of William Threadgill, a son of said decedent. Hull Threadgill died in Anson County on the 20th of February, 1872 leaving no last will and testament.....He left surviving as his heirs at law and next of kin, Thomas H. Threadgill, now dead, without ever having had issue, G. H. Threadgill, deceased, without ever having had issue, Gideon B. Threadgill, deceased with his heirs at law his children S. H. Threadgill, Sarah Dula, wife of George T. Dula, residents of Anson County and Fanny Morgan, wife of _______ Morgan, (left blank), who resides in Tennesee, William Threadgill, Allen Threadgill and Jane Creps, residents of Texas, all foregoing are of age, Mary Threadgill, a daughter now dead without issue, a granddaughter, Susan McRae, wife of James McRae now of South Carolina, and Hannah Wells who is now dead, and her real representatives are the children of Mary Jane Lilly, who is dead, said children are minors and so far as affiant knows have no guardian, and reside in Montgomery County. "
This was an excellent recount of the heirs of Hull Threadgill. I will explore them more later on. In attempting to find the parentage of Eliza Threadgill Turner, wife of James Axom Turner, I thought to explore the children of Hull Threadgill who ended up in Texas, as William Hull and wife Charlotte Turner Threadgill did. There were a number of Eliza's and I can not yet say with any certainty which one she was. What I did find, however, was a third Threadgill tie to the children of Axom and Patience Turner.
I had determined that James A. Turner passed away between 1855 and 1860, as his widow and children show up living with his sisters in 1860. His mother, Patience, and brother D. L. , or Doctor Louis, also do not show up after 1855 in the Alabama State Census. D. L. may have moved somewhere else. There is a great deal more research to do. But the one who does show up is William P. Turner, or as I would later discover, William Porter Turner.
William P. would marry Mary Caroline Proctor on August 27, 1853 in Sumter County, Alabama. He showed up in the 1855 Alabama State Census, however, by 1860, the young family would move to Houston County, Texas, and it appears that by 1880, all the surving members of his family would move there also, including the C. F. Threadgill that showed up in the 1855 Alabama State Census with them, Charles Franklin Threadgill.
On August 4, 1883, in Houston County, Texas, William P. Turner would marry "Miss Mary P Creps", aka "Molly".
Molly would turn out to be the daughter of Eliza Jane Threadgill Creps, Jane being the sister of William Hull Threadgill who married Charlotte Turner. The Creps did not immediately turn up in Texas.
The following are the census records for Eliza Jane Threadgill Creps from 1850 - 1880.
In 1850, Jane had not been married long, she and her husband, John Alexander Creps were a young couple with an infant son, James. They were living in Cedar Hill, Anson County, NC, not far from her parents. Their neighborhood was very interesting. Above them lived a widow, 55 year old Mary Porter, and some of her children. Below them lived Archibald Grisham, who would turn out to be the son of Elizabeth Grisham or Grissom, who would marry Reddick Drew. The same Reddick Drew who would later marry Martha Turner, sister of Axom Turner and daughter of James Turner, Sr. The same Reddick Drew who would have guardianship of some children with the surname of Axom. Archibald Gresham/Grisham/Grissom was a carpenter.
Beside of Archibald Gresham was the family of one Samuel Axom.
By 1860, the family had increased to that of 4 children, including Molly, who would marry William Porter Turner, and they were still living in Cedar Hill. However, now, their neighbors were listed as J. M. Creps, a Carpenter family, some Mortons, Smiths and Earingharts, and they were living in a communtiy of skilled craftmen and carriage makers.
Name:E J Creps
Age in 1870:48
Birth Year:abt 1822
Birthplace:North Carolina
Dwelling Number:23
Home in 1870:Kingston, Roane, Tennessee
Race:WhiteGender:Female
Occupation:Keeping House
Inferred Spouse:John A Creps
Inferred Children:A L Creps
Mary P Creps
William Creps
Julia Creps
George W Creps
Household Members:
By 1870, the growing family had left North Carolina. They had moved to the City of Kingston, in Roane County, Tennesee. John Alexander Creps was still working as a carpenter, as he had all along, and they were still living in a community of skilled craftsmen and merchants. The Creps were not a farm family. They preferred being townspeople. It appeared to be a diverse and growing town, with their neighbors origins being listed as "Kentucky, Saxony, Maine, Prussia, Tunisia".
In 1880, they were found in Madison County, Tennesee, although in 1872, William Hull Threadgill stated that his sister ,Jane, was in Texas. I suppose it is possible they left Kingston, went to Houston County, Tennesee, and then moved back up to Madison County by 1880.
I wanted to know a little bit about the history of these areas and also the Creps family to see if there were any more connections to the Turners, the Porters, or the Axoms.
Note: The research of the children of Axom and Patience Turner has proved so mucky and involved, that I have not been able to post for quite awhile. So this is going to be one of those "to be continued" type of posts. Below is a list of the descendants of (My Theory) Axom and Patience Porter Turner.
1900 Census of Houston County, Texas.
William P Turner was the first of the family to relocate to Houston County, Texas from Sumter County, Alabama as evidenced by his 1867 Voter Registration.
Theory:
Axom Turner, b 1795, originally of Anson County, NC, son of James Turner and possibly an Allen or an Axom. He died between March and August of 1837 in Sumter County, Alabama. I have since discovered his estate papers since starting this post. My next post will cover those.
Married to Patience Porter, daughter of James Barnaby Porter. Born about 1792 in NC, died before 1870, either in Sumter County, Alabama or Houston County, Texas.
Children:
1) Unknown daughter born about 1818, either died young or married unknown.
2) Rebecca Turner, born about 1820 died about 1885 in Houston County, Texas (probably). Estate settled around 1890 in Choctaw County, Alabama. Married an older widower, Marshall Minor (Mynor) on November 17, 1848 in Choctaw County, Alabama.
Two children: Amanda L. Minor b 1855
D. Seals Minor b 1862.
Note: Both children were alive during the final estate settlement of Marshall and Rebecca Minor in Chotaw County, Alabama in 1891. Both were noted as living in Houston County, Texas with the other Turner descendants. D. Seals Minor married Myrtle "Mertie" Estill (or Estelle, daughter of William D. Estill and Eliza Hunter Estill) on February 16, 1896. They had one known daughter, Ida Minor, born in 1897. Mertie Estill Minor would marry William C.Wiggins on February 26, 1901, so it can be assumed that D. Seals Minor died before that date. It is unknown who Amanda Minor married, at this time, or if she even did.
3) James Axom Turner born about 1825 Anson County, NC died between 1855 and 1860 in Sumter County, Alabama.
Married Elizabeth "Eliza" Threadgill born about 1827 in Anson County, NC.
Four children:
A) William Axom Turner b 1851 d before 1910.
Married Mary Jane Elizabeth Corder ( 1854-bef 1930) Four children:
1878 - Rebecca E. Turner
1879 - Mary A. Turner
1885 - James E. Turner
1887 - Sarah Willie Turner
1893- Twins: Fannie and Nannie Turner. Note: Twins ran in the Turner family.
B) John Wesley Turner b 1852 d 1919 Porter Springs, Houston County Texas.
Married his first cousin, Francis Rebecca "Becky" Turner. (1856-1920). Eleven children:
1877 - Albert L.Turner
1879- Mary Caroline Turner
1880 - James W. "Bud" Turner
1883 Annie Augusta Turner
1884- Elizabeth Mae Turner
1888 Nanny L. Turner
1890-1972 John Franklin Turner
1892-1970 Thomas Albert Turner
1892-1968 William T. "Babe" Turner
1896-1973 Walter Turner
1896-1968 Oscar Turner (The last two being twins)
C) Mary Louise Turner b 18 December 1854, Died 3 Jan. 1944 Porter Springs, Houston County, TX.
Married about 1879 to Dock R Cook (1854-1924) Seven Children:
11878-1943 James Franklin Cook
1881-1886 Wilson Cook
1884-1972 William Luke Cook
18871-? Wesley W. Cook
1889-1891 Nora Cook
1893-1933 Edgar Cook
1897-1972 Ollie Cook.
D) James Franklin Harvey Turner b 18 Feb 1856 -13 Jan 1917 Porter Springs, Houston County, TX Marries 1894 in Houston County, Florence Vann Murray. Five children:
1895-1974 Alton Ehteran Turner
1902-1920 Katie Turner
1904-1919 John Harvery Turner
1909-1982 Clester M. Turner
1911-1975 William W. "Billie" Turner
4) William Porter Turner b about 1827. Served in the Civil War. First member of the family to relocated to Porter Springs in Houston County, TX. There by 1860. None of family are recorded in the 1870 census, but I believe they were all in Houston County by then. Even the well-documented founder of Porter Springs, James McIntosh Porter, is not to be found in 1870, so I believe the whole community went uncounted in 1870. William P. Turner died sometime between 1900 and 1910, presumably in Porter Springs, Houston County, Texas.
He had married Mary Caroline Proctor on August 27, 1853 in Sumter County, Alabama. 9 children to this marriage. Note: I have not fully researched this family. There are holes and possibly errors in the dates and names of the children.
1856-1920 Frances Rebecca Turner (married her 1st cousin John Wesley Turner).
1859-1907 John Turner
1862- before 1900 William P Turner, Jr. aka Billy
1862-1876 Mary A. Turner
1865-1943 Robert Lee Turner
1867- ? Louis Turner
1870-1933 James T. F. "Jim" Turner
1873- ? Son I. P. or J. P. Turner
1873 - 1951 Walter Oscar Turner
Notice the repetetion of names between cousins and that Billy and Mary were possibly twins, as well as I.P and Walter O. Turner.
Married Mary P. "Mollie" Creps in 1883. She was the daughter of John Alexander Creps and Eliza Jane Threadgill, all from Anson County, NC and arrived in Texas via Tennesee. Mollie outlived William P. Turner by several decades. Three children of this marriage:
1884 - ? Joseph A. Turner
1887- ? daughter, Willie A. Turner
1890-1974 Mary Elizabeth "Lizzie" Turner.
5) Mary "Polly" Tuner b about 1827. Mary shows up in the 1850 and 1860 census records and no more. It is unknown if she married, died in Sumter County, Alabama, or if she made it to Houston County, Texas with the rest of the family. She is not to be found with the rest of the family in 1880.
6) Doctor Louis Turner b about 1830 D. L. Turner shows up in the 1850 Federal census for Sumter County and also in the 1855 State census of Alabama, head of his own household by then, but with not apparent family. He either relocated and I have not been able to locate him, or he passed away before 1860 in Sumter County.
7) Penelope Turner b abt. 1832 Penelope Turner did make it to Houston County, Texas. She shows up, unmarried, there with her surviving family in 1880. She may have died in Porter Springs between 1880 and 1900, as she is not to be found in the 1900 census of Porter Springs.
8) Susan Turner b abt 1830 Susan Turner shows up with the Turner family in Sumter County in the 1850 and 1860 census records. It is possible that she is the Susan A. Turner who married a John Russell and relocated first to Muskogee County, Georgia, then later to Barbour County, Alabama and filed for a Confederate pension from John Russells service in 1894. There's no culpable evidence either way, save her name and the fact that she was indeed born in NC and that her husband came from the same area.
9) Charlotte Turner b 1833 died before 1900 in Houston County, Texas.
Married on March 24, 1857 William Hull Threadgill (1833-1900).
William Hull Threadgill was the son of Joshua Hull Threadgill of Anson County, NC.
Charlotte and W. H. were both born in Anson County, NC. Joshua Hull Threadgill's land adjoined
that of James Turner, father of Axom Turner. While it is still theory that the family of Patience
Turner and that of Axom Turner are one and the same, the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming.
5 known children were born to that marriage:
1858- 1887 Martha "Mattie" A. Threadgill
1859 Rebecca "Beckie" Threadgill
1861-1895 Sarah Jane Threadgill
1866- 1939 William Threadgill Jr.
1869-1889 Elizabeth "Lizzie" Threadgill
My research of Axum Turner, the Threadgill link and the Turner family is ongoing.
Next: The estate papers of Axum Turner: Found!
But the very first mention of Axum that I have so far found was in a transaction between Barnabas Porter and William Threadgill, both of Anson. For $68, he sold 60 acres on the east side of Jack's Branch, that began at Dennis McLendon's turkey oak, and joined Lanier, Pope, & Lemuel Ingram. Signed by 'Barnaby' Porter and witnessed by Benjamin Boykin and Axum Turner.
Axum would have been a young man then, perhaps 20 or 21. The connection to the Drew and Threadgill family, particularly that of one Hull Threadgill was an ongoing theme. The Dennis McLendon tract is mentioned often. The Kendall's and Allen's are mentioned occasionally. The Carpenter family, especially that of William and his son Allen, were also closely interconnected to the family of James Turner. But it was Axum and only Axum, particularly, who was connected to Barnaby Porter. And with the Porters, who I will look at more closely later, the names of Pope and Boykin are a reocurring theme. Not only those, but another as well, Axum (or Exum), as the spellling seems completely interchangeable.
The War of 1812 is one modern Americans do not seem to recall much or celebrate in any way, but it was a major player in mass migrations. Known as the Second War of Independence, it was fought between the USA and the UK and their allies and lasted from June of 1812 until February of 1815. The spark of the War was economic sanctions that had been taken against the US by England and France as part of the Napoleanic Wars. British ships were continually seizing American ships that were trading with France and imprisoning and forced recruitment of American soldiers. The war ended in 1815 with the signing of the Treaty of Ghent.
| Name: | Axum Turner |
|---|---|
| Company: | CAPT. LANIER'S CO., NORTH CAROLINA MILITIA. |
| Rank - Induction: | PRIVATE |
| Rank - Discharge: | PRIVATE |
| Roll Box: | 212 |
| Microfilm Publication: | M602 |
Axum Turner was one of the many young men called into service at this time. He served as a Private in Captain Lanier's Company of the North Carolina Militia.
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| From: lumen: Boundless US History |
Another factor in the War of 1812 involved Native Americans and their natural and rightful resistance to giving up territory to the increasing growth of the European settlement of America. Several battles occured from North to South. One of these involved the Creek, which is most likely the battles that Axum Turners may have taken part in, from what I can determine.
The Treaty of Fort Jackson ended the Creek Wars and resulted in lands ceded in Alabama and Southwestern Georgia. Many soldiers who participated in the War of 1812 recieved Land Bounties for their service in these areas. Some left rather quickly, others, like Axum Turner, did not, but remained in Anson for some time after their service, waiting for safer settlement to occur before moving his family there.
Axum began purchasing his own land in Anson County in 1821. In Book T, Page 353, there's recorded a sell from Reddick Drew to Axum Turner, both of Anson County, NC, for $700.50, a tract of 75 acres, that bordered a second survey of 150 acres. It was signed by Reddick Drew and witnessed by M W Mask. The property of the Drew family had long bordered that of the James Turner family, beginning with John Drew, father of Reddick. Reddick would marry Martha Turner, Axum's younger sister, sometime in late 1850 or early 1851.
In July of 1823, Sheriff Joseph Medley possessed to sell to a Grove W. May, for only $2.56, 140 acres on Jack's Branch, that began at John Drew's corner, and joined the properties of Kendall, Morris and Ball, with the exception of the 75 acres sold by Reddick Drew to Axum Turner which began at a small post oak and joined James Turner "due to and execution for $23.71 from Anson County Pleas and Quarters Sessions Court by William Marshall against Redick Drew & Thomas B Drew for $20.91 principal which was secured by William Marshall against Reddick Drew & Thomas B. Drew."
It was sold it said, because no goods or chattels were found. Reddick and Thomas B Drew were the sons of John Drew. They had obviously gotten themselves in debt and had no property or production of goods to show for it. Thomas B Drew would soon thereafter load his family up and move to Georgia.
He, too, was a veteran of the War of 1812. I don't believe Reddick Drew served in the military in any capacity. I found a document on a Dependant Pension Application for Florida Wars, and believe this was most likely concerning his nephew, also named Reddick Drew, that was a son of Thomas B Drew.
But notice how cheap the Drew brothers property sold, $23.71 for 140 acres compared to the $700.50 that Axum had paid for just 75 acres. This left Reddick Drew (or Red or Reddie as he was sometimes seen) with just 10 acres to his name to live on, but he was not a man without a plan.
In 1825, Axum Turner recieved his own Grant from the Governor of North Carolina. On December 14th of that year by Grant of Governor H.G. Burton, Grant no. 2777, for $10 for every 100 acres granted 100 acres that began at Joshua Brooks corner pine and joined James Barber & Lick Branch. It was signed by the Govenor and witnessed by Secretary Hill.
Axum Turner was still in Anson County up until January 5th of 1832. At that time he was mentioned in the deed of 11 acres from William Carpenter to his father, James Turner, that bordered the property of Axum (James Turner's son) and Allen Carpenter (William's son).
| Name: | Axum Turner |
|---|---|
| State: | NC |
| County: | Anson County |
| Township: | First Reg. Mr |
| Year: | 1814 |
| Database: | NC 1812-1814 Muster Rolls |
After that time, Axum acted on his Land Bounty for his service in the War of 1812.
| Name: | Axum Turner |
|---|---|
| Issue Date: | 20 Mar 1837 |
| Place: | Sumter, Alabama, USA |
| Land Office: | Demopolis |
| Meridian: | St Stephens |
| Township: | 16-N |
| Range: | 2-W |
| Section: | 32 |
| Accession Number: | AL1080__.385 |
| Document Number: | 5791 |
By 1837, he had settled in Sumter County, Alabama. The document states that Gains Whitfield, an " Assignee of Axum Turner" deposited in the Land Office at Deompolis, Alabama, a certificate, paid in full, "according to the provisions act of Congress of the 24th of April 1820", concerning the sale of Public Lands. The description was for the "north half of the Southeast quarter of Section 32 in Township 16 of Range Two West in the District of Lands suject to sale at Demopolis, Alabama, containing 79 acres and 38 hundreds of an acre.
This is the last trace of Axum Turner. But as you can see by the 1830 census of Anson County, he had a young wife and a sizable family. So it was NOT the end of the family of Axum Turner.
Take note that the rest of this post is based on fragments of information and circumstantial evidence.
Adding 2 + 2, family connections, and my research is nowhere near complete, and may never be.
So, dear reader, don't take any of my assumptions as fact. This family is POSSIBLY that of Axum Turner, but the circumstantial evidence is pretty strong. This is my theory.
Axum Turner is not to be found in the 1840 census of Sumter County, Alabama. Or anywhere, for that matter, although we know he moved there by 1937. So the question is: Was there a widow Turner with several children found in the 1840 census of Sumter County, Alabama?
The answer is, there was. And to cement who was who, we have to look at 1850 first, 1840 second, and then fast forward to the 1855 state census of Sumter County, Alabama.
| Name: | Patience Turner | ||||||||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Age: | 58 | ||||||||||||||||||
| Birth Year: | abt 1792 | ||||||||||||||||||
| Birthplace: | South Carolina | ||||||||||||||||||
| Home in 1850: | Gaston, Sumter, Alabama, USA | ||||||||||||||||||
| Gender: | Female | ||||||||||||||||||
| Family Number: | 915 | ||||||||||||||||||
| Household Members: |
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The above record shows Patience Turner, born in SC, with 7 of her children, born in NC. But she is not the only Patience Turner in Sumter County, Alabama at this time.
| Name: | Patience Turner |
|---|---|
| Age: | 71 |
| Birth Year: | abt 1779 |
| Birthplace: | North Carolina |
| Home in 1850: | Gainesville, Sumter, Alabama, USA |
| Gender: | Female |
| Family Number: | 956 |
| Household Members: |
This older Patience Turner is identified as Patience Dickenson Turner. She is living with the Seth Little family and she was born in NC. The Moffat children interest me because of my Winfield connection to Moffatts, especially being in Alabama.
| Name: | Patience Turner |
|---|---|
| Home in 1840 (City, County, State): | Sumter, Alabama |
| Free White Persons - Females - 60 thru 69: | 1 |
| Slaves - Males - 10 thru 23: | 1 |
| Slaves - Males - 24 thru 35: | 1 |
| Slaves - Females - 10 thru 23: | 1 |
| Slaves - Females - 36 thru 54: | 1 |
| Total Free White Persons: | 1 |
| Total Slaves: | 4 |
| Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves: | 5 |
This older Patience Turner lived alone in 1840 with 4 slaves. She died in 1851, and left a will. She was the widow of a Mathew Turner, and her family is well documented. I have not looked to see if there is a connection between this group of Turners and our Anson County group of Turners, but it is possible.
| Name: | Patience Dickinson Turner |
|---|---|
| Gender: | Female |
| Marriage Age: | 22 |
| Birth Date: | 18 Nov 1779 |
| Marriage Date: | 1801 |
Patience Dickenson Turner has a Find-a-grave link.
| Name: | Patience Turner |
|---|---|
| Maiden Name: | Dickenson |
| Gender: | Female |
| Birth Date: | 18 Nov 1779 |
| Birth Place: | Wayne County, North Carolina, United States of America |
| Death Date: | 1 Feb 1851 |
| Death Place: | Sumter County, Alabama, United States of America |
| Cemetery: | Shady Grove Cemetery |
| Burial or Cremation Place: | Panola, Sumter County, Alabama, United States of America |
| Has Bio?: | Y |
| Children: | Elizabeth Moffitt Little Sarah Bell |
| URL: | https://www.findagrave.com/mem... |
She was the daughter of Shadrack Dickenson and Keziah Sims of Wayne County, NC, leading back to Bertie County, NC. Many a descendant of the younger Patience Turner have them merged into the same person in attempts to climb an easy tree, but they were clearly two very different women.
| Name: | Patience Tamer [Patience Turner] |
|---|---|
| Home in 1840 (City, County, State): | Sumter, Alabama |
| Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 14: | 3 |
| Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: | 1 |
| Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 14: | 2 |
| Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19: | 2 |
| Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29: | 1 |
| Free White Persons - Females - 50 thru 59: | 1 |
| Free White Persons - Under 20: | 8 |
| Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: | 1 |
| Total Free White Persons: | 10 |
| Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves: | 10 |
This is what the family of the younger Patience Turner looked like in 1840.
| Name: | Patience Turner |
|---|---|
| Issue Date: | 30 Mar 1837 |
| Place: | Sumter, Alabama, USA |
| Land Office: | Tuscaloosa |
| Meridian: | St Stephens |
| Township: | 22-N |
| Range: | 3-W |
| Section: | 1 |
| Accession Number: | AL0880__.487 |
| Document Number: | 12834 |
| Original URL: |
To top that off, the younger Patience Turner is mentioned in the land surveys. Patience recieved her grant on March 30, 1837, while Axum's was executed 10 days earlier on March 20, 1837. He may have died along the trip actually, or at least, shortly after arriving in Alabama.
Axum's was dated March 20, 1837. Patience's was dated March 30, 1837. Ten days apart. Could he have died in between these 10 days?
Now to compare the family of Patience Turner in 1840 with the family of Axum Turner in 1830.
| Name: | Patience Tamer [Patience Turner] |
|---|---|
| Home in 1840 (City, County, State): | Sumter, Alabama |
| Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 14: | 3 1826-1830 |
| Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: | 1 1831-1835 |
| Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 14: | 2 1826-1830 |
| Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19: | 2 1821-1825 |
| Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29: | 1 1811-1820 |
| Free White Persons - Females - 50 thru 59: | 1 1781-1790 |
| Free White Persons - Under 20: | 8 All children |
| Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: | 1 Mother |
| Total Free White Persons: | 10 |
And that of Axum in 1830
| Name: | Aaron Turner [Axom or Axum Turner] [Aom Turner] |
|---|---|
| Home in 1830 (City, County, State): | Anson, North Carolina |
| Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: | 2 1825-1830 |
| Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9: | 1 1821-1826 |
| Free White Persons - Males - 30 thru 39: | 1 1790-1800 |
| Free White Persons - Females - Under 5: | 2 1825-1830 |
| Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: | 1 1821-1826 |
| Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 14: | 2 1816-1820 |
| Free White Persons - Females - 30 thru 39: | 1 1790-1800 |
| Free White Persons - Under 20: | 8 8 children |
| Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: | 2 2 adults |
| Total Free White Persons: | 10 |
Now to add names:
| Name: | Aaron Turner [Axom or Axum Turner] [Aom Turner] |
|---|---|
| Home in 1830 (City, County, State): | Anson, North Carolina |
| Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: | 2 William P & Dr. Louis |
| Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9: | 1 James A. |
| Free White Persons - Males - 30 thru 39: | 1 Axum |
| Free White Persons - Females - Under 5: | 2 Susan and Polly |
| Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: | 1 Penelope |
| Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 14: | 2 Rebecca & Daughter 1 |
| Free White Persons - Females - 30 thru 39: | 1 Patience |
| Free White Persons - Under 20: | 8 |
| Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: | 2 |
| Total Free White Persons: | 10 |
Only Charlotte not born yet.
Now to 1840 in Alabama:
| Name: | Patience Tamer [Patience Turner] |
|---|---|
| Home in 1840 (City, County, State): | Sumter, Alabama |
| Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 14: | 3 James, William, D. Louis |
| Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: | 1 Charlotte |
| Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 14: | 2 Susan and Polly |
| Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19: | 2 Rebecca, Daughter 1 |
| Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29: | 1 Unknown |
| Free White Persons - Females - 50 thru 59: | 1 Patience |
| Free White Persons - Under 20: | 8 |
| Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: | 1 |
| Total Free White Persons: | 10 |
I jumped a little ahead adding Rebecca. Rebecca married in neighboring Choctaw County in 1848, before the 1850 census. She later travels to Texas with the surviving Turners and lives next to them. She was a Turner. The Texas Turners include her as one of them, therefore, no arguement. I have included her too.
The land fits. The family dynamics fits, although I've not been able to identify the older daughter or daughters who died or married prior to 1850.
Other circumstantial evidence that this family come from 2 sources: Attachment to Anson County and names. Two in particular: Threadgill and Axom.
First- Axum or Axom.
In the 1860 census of Sumter County Alabama, the 3 single Turner sisters, Penelope, Susan and Polly, are seen living alone with another adult female Turner named Eliza and 4 young children:
| Name: | Eliza Turner | ||||||||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Age: | 27 | ||||||||||||||||||
| Birth Year: | abt 1833 | ||||||||||||||||||
| Gender: | Female | ||||||||||||||||||
| Birth Place: | North Carolina | ||||||||||||||||||
| Home in 1860: | Southern Division, Sumter, Alabama | ||||||||||||||||||
| Post Office: | Gaston | ||||||||||||||||||
| Dwelling Number: | 150 | ||||||||||||||||||
| Family Number: | 150 | ||||||||||||||||||
| Household Members: |
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Other Turner descendants had figured out that this Eliza was the widow of one of the Turner brothers, althought they were not sure who. William P was already married and so had youngest daughter, Charlotte.
The 1855 State Census gives us a little hint at who that was. We know it wasn't William P., as he survived and his family is found through 1900.
The Alabama State Census did not name everyone in the household, much like the Federal censuses of 1840 and prior. They listed the "Individual or Head of Household". Following were columns for:
White males over 21:
White males under 21:
White females over 21:
White females under 21:
Total:
Insane persons:
Slaves:
Free People of Color:
Total All.
Patience is still living in 1855. We know it is our Patience because the other, older Patience Dickson Turner passed away in 1851. In her household is listed one male over 21, although she is the Head of Household. This indicates a son or an employee. Then, one female over 21, one under 21, with a first total of 3, one slave, with a final total of 4.
Next to her is her son James. In his household are 2 males over 21, one male under 21, 1 female under 21 and one over. Both totals of 5 individuals.
William P and D. L Turner are also both counted as "Individuals or Heads of Household". Both of them are counted as One Male over 21 and no other persons. Their totals are one. Of note, near them also is a C. F. Threadgill.
This means that in 1855, Patience, James and Doctor Louis Turner are still living. James appears to have married and has 2 children. Willliam P. has not yet married.
Back to the name Axom. The widow and children in the 1860 census were the widow and children of James A. Turner. The children were listed as N.A., John W. , Mary and James. The descendants of John W and James seem to have taken no interest in "N. A." and Mary, and that was a mistake. While their descendants seem to have no clue who Eliza's husband was, the descendants of the other two had it all figured out.
The N turned out to be a transcription error. The child grew up and his name was William Axom Turner. He died some time between 1900 and 1910. He married Mary Jane Elizabeth Corder and they had 9 children, 4 of whom made it to adulthood. The Corder's were very intermarried with this branch of the Turner family tree. Their adult children lived into the time of death certificates and his descendants knew his middle name. They all, along with the other descendants of Axom Turner, all migrated from Sumter County, Alabama to Houston County, Texas. The descendants of William Axom (spelled "Azom" in some of the descendants trees) and of his sister, Mary Louise, also record his father's name as "James Axom Turner" and James's wife as "Eliza Threadgill".
The Threadgill Connection.
The records of the children of James Axom and Eliza Turner indicated that Eliza's maiden name was Threadgill. Recalling back the land records of my ancestor James Turner in Anson County, NC, father of Axom, grandfather of James Axom, Threadgill was a name that popped up often. His property adjoined that of a Hull Threadgill.
This is not the only time the name "Threadgill" comes up in the Sumter County, Alabama Turners.
The Galveston Daily News
Galveston, Texas06 Jun 1880, Sun • Page 4
In 1857, in Sumter County, the youngest daughter of Patience Turner (And Axom Turner), Charlotte, marries a young man named William Hull Threadgill.
William Hull Threadgill was also from Anson County, NC. To be specific, He was a son of the Hull Threadgill who was a neighbor of James Turner of Anson County. Hull Threadgill Sr., said to be Joshua Hull Threadgill died in 1872 in Anson County. The following excerpts are from his will:
"S H Gaddy applies for letters of administration on the estate of Hull Threadgill, on the request of William Threadgill, a son of said decedent. Hull Threadgill died in Anson County on the 20th of February, 1872 leaving no last will and testament.....He left surviving as his heirs at law and next of kin, Thomas H. Threadgill, now dead, without ever having had issue, G. H. Threadgill, deceased, without ever having had issue, Gideon B. Threadgill, deceased with his heirs at law his children S. H. Threadgill, Sarah Dula, wife of George T. Dula, residents of Anson County and Fanny Morgan, wife of _______ Morgan, (left blank), who resides in Tennesee, William Threadgill, Allen Threadgill and Jane Creps, residents of Texas, all foregoing are of age, Mary Threadgill, a daughter now dead without issue, a granddaughter, Susan McRae, wife of James McRae now of South Carolina, and Hannah Wells who is now dead, and her real representatives are the children of Mary Jane Lilly, who is dead, said children are minors and so far as affiant knows have no guardian, and reside in Montgomery County. "
This was an excellent recount of the heirs of Hull Threadgill. I will explore them more later on. In attempting to find the parentage of Eliza Threadgill Turner, wife of James Axom Turner, I thought to explore the children of Hull Threadgill who ended up in Texas, as William Hull and wife Charlotte Turner Threadgill did. There were a number of Eliza's and I can not yet say with any certainty which one she was. What I did find, however, was a third Threadgill tie to the children of Axom and Patience Turner.
I had determined that James A. Turner passed away between 1855 and 1860, as his widow and children show up living with his sisters in 1860. His mother, Patience, and brother D. L. , or Doctor Louis, also do not show up after 1855 in the Alabama State Census. D. L. may have moved somewhere else. There is a great deal more research to do. But the one who does show up is William P. Turner, or as I would later discover, William Porter Turner.
William P. would marry Mary Caroline Proctor on August 27, 1853 in Sumter County, Alabama. He showed up in the 1855 Alabama State Census, however, by 1860, the young family would move to Houston County, Texas, and it appears that by 1880, all the surving members of his family would move there also, including the C. F. Threadgill that showed up in the 1855 Alabama State Census with them, Charles Franklin Threadgill.
On August 4, 1883, in Houston County, Texas, William P. Turner would marry "Miss Mary P Creps", aka "Molly".
| Name: | Miss Mary P. Creps |
|---|---|
| Gender: | Female |
| Marriage Date: | 1883 |
| Marriage Place: | Houston, Texas, United States |
| Spouse: | W. P. Turner |
Molly would turn out to be the daughter of Eliza Jane Threadgill Creps, Jane being the sister of William Hull Threadgill who married Charlotte Turner. The Creps did not immediately turn up in Texas.
The following are the census records for Eliza Jane Threadgill Creps from 1850 - 1880.
| Name: | Jane Creps | ||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Age: | 20 | ||||||||
| Birth Year: | abt 1830 | ||||||||
| Birthplace: | North Carolina | ||||||||
| Home in 1850: | Cedar Hill, Anson, North Carolina, USA | ||||||||
| Gender: | Female | ||||||||
| Family Number: | 604 | ||||||||
| Household Members: |
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In 1850, Jane had not been married long, she and her husband, John Alexander Creps were a young couple with an infant son, James. They were living in Cedar Hill, Anson County, NC, not far from her parents. Their neighborhood was very interesting. Above them lived a widow, 55 year old Mary Porter, and some of her children. Below them lived Archibald Grisham, who would turn out to be the son of Elizabeth Grisham or Grissom, who would marry Reddick Drew. The same Reddick Drew who would later marry Martha Turner, sister of Axom Turner and daughter of James Turner, Sr. The same Reddick Drew who would have guardianship of some children with the surname of Axom. Archibald Gresham/Grisham/Grissom was a carpenter.
Beside of Archibald Gresham was the family of one Samuel Axom.
| ame: | Eliza J Kreps | ||||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Age: | 24 | ||||||||||||||
| Birth Year: | abt 1836 | ||||||||||||||
| Gender: | Female | ||||||||||||||
| Birth Place: | North Carolina | ||||||||||||||
| Home in 1860: | Cedar Hill, Anson, North Carolina | ||||||||||||||
| Post Office: | Ansonville | ||||||||||||||
| Dwelling Number: | 262 | ||||||||||||||
| Family Number: | 262 | ||||||||||||||
| Household Members: |
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By 1860, the family had increased to that of 4 children, including Molly, who would marry William Porter Turner, and they were still living in Cedar Hill. However, now, their neighbors were listed as J. M. Creps, a Carpenter family, some Mortons, Smiths and Earingharts, and they were living in a communtiy of skilled craftmen and carriage makers.
Name:E J Creps
Age in 1870:48
Birth Year:abt 1822
Birthplace:North Carolina
Dwelling Number:23
Home in 1870:Kingston, Roane, Tennessee
Race:WhiteGender:Female
Occupation:Keeping House
Inferred Spouse:John A Creps
Inferred Children:A L Creps
Mary P Creps
William Creps
Julia Creps
George W Creps
Household Members:
| Name | Age |
|---|---|
| John A Creps | 44 |
| E J Creps | 48 |
| A L Creps | 16 |
| Mary P Creps | 13 |
| William Creps | 10 |
| Julia Creps | 7 |
| George W Creps | 3 |
By 1870, the growing family had left North Carolina. They had moved to the City of Kingston, in Roane County, Tennesee. John Alexander Creps was still working as a carpenter, as he had all along, and they were still living in a community of skilled craftsmen and merchants. The Creps were not a farm family. They preferred being townspeople. It appeared to be a diverse and growing town, with their neighbors origins being listed as "Kentucky, Saxony, Maine, Prussia, Tunisia".
| Name: | Jane Creps | ||||||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Age: | 53 | ||||||||||||||||
| Birth Date: | Abt 1827 | ||||||||||||||||
| Birthplace: | North Carolina | ||||||||||||||||
| Home in 1880: | District 8, Madison, Tennessee, USA | ||||||||||||||||
| Dwelling Number: | 89 | ||||||||||||||||
| Race: | White | ||||||||||||||||
| Gender: | Female | ||||||||||||||||
| Relation to Head of House: | Wife | ||||||||||||||||
| Marital status: | Married | ||||||||||||||||
| Spouse's name: | John A. Creps | ||||||||||||||||
| Father's Birthplace: | North Carolina | ||||||||||||||||
| Mother's Birthplace: | North Carolina | ||||||||||||||||
| Occupation: | Keeping House | ||||||||||||||||
| Neighbors: | |||||||||||||||||
| Household Members: |
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In 1880, they were found in Madison County, Tennesee, although in 1872, William Hull Threadgill stated that his sister ,Jane, was in Texas. I suppose it is possible they left Kingston, went to Houston County, Tennesee, and then moved back up to Madison County by 1880.
I wanted to know a little bit about the history of these areas and also the Creps family to see if there were any more connections to the Turners, the Porters, or the Axoms.
Note: The research of the children of Axom and Patience Turner has proved so mucky and involved, that I have not been able to post for quite awhile. So this is going to be one of those "to be continued" type of posts. Below is a list of the descendants of (My Theory) Axom and Patience Porter Turner.
1900 Census of Houston County, Texas.
| Name: | William P Turner |
|---|---|
| Birthplace: | North Carolina |
| Registry Date: | 18 Nov 1869 |
| County: | Houston |
| Line Number: | 1571 |
| Archive Name: | Texas State Library and Archives |
| Archive Collection Title: | 1867 Voter Registration Lists |
| Archive Reel Number: | 7 |
William P Turner was the first of the family to relocate to Houston County, Texas from Sumter County, Alabama as evidenced by his 1867 Voter Registration.
Theory:
Axom Turner, b 1795, originally of Anson County, NC, son of James Turner and possibly an Allen or an Axom. He died between March and August of 1837 in Sumter County, Alabama. I have since discovered his estate papers since starting this post. My next post will cover those.
Married to Patience Porter, daughter of James Barnaby Porter. Born about 1792 in NC, died before 1870, either in Sumter County, Alabama or Houston County, Texas.
Children:
1) Unknown daughter born about 1818, either died young or married unknown.
2) Rebecca Turner, born about 1820 died about 1885 in Houston County, Texas (probably). Estate settled around 1890 in Choctaw County, Alabama. Married an older widower, Marshall Minor (Mynor) on November 17, 1848 in Choctaw County, Alabama.
Two children: Amanda L. Minor b 1855
D. Seals Minor b 1862.
Note: Both children were alive during the final estate settlement of Marshall and Rebecca Minor in Chotaw County, Alabama in 1891. Both were noted as living in Houston County, Texas with the other Turner descendants. D. Seals Minor married Myrtle "Mertie" Estill (or Estelle, daughter of William D. Estill and Eliza Hunter Estill) on February 16, 1896. They had one known daughter, Ida Minor, born in 1897. Mertie Estill Minor would marry William C.Wiggins on February 26, 1901, so it can be assumed that D. Seals Minor died before that date. It is unknown who Amanda Minor married, at this time, or if she even did.
3) James Axom Turner born about 1825 Anson County, NC died between 1855 and 1860 in Sumter County, Alabama.
Married Elizabeth "Eliza" Threadgill born about 1827 in Anson County, NC.
Four children:
A) William Axom Turner b 1851 d before 1910.
Married Mary Jane Elizabeth Corder ( 1854-bef 1930) Four children:
1878 - Rebecca E. Turner
1879 - Mary A. Turner
1885 - James E. Turner
1887 - Sarah Willie Turner
1893- Twins: Fannie and Nannie Turner. Note: Twins ran in the Turner family.
B) John Wesley Turner b 1852 d 1919 Porter Springs, Houston County Texas.
Married his first cousin, Francis Rebecca "Becky" Turner. (1856-1920). Eleven children:
1877 - Albert L.Turner
1879- Mary Caroline Turner
1880 - James W. "Bud" Turner
1883 Annie Augusta Turner
1884- Elizabeth Mae Turner
1888 Nanny L. Turner
1890-1972 John Franklin Turner
1892-1970 Thomas Albert Turner
1892-1968 William T. "Babe" Turner
1896-1973 Walter Turner
1896-1968 Oscar Turner (The last two being twins)
C) Mary Louise Turner b 18 December 1854, Died 3 Jan. 1944 Porter Springs, Houston County, TX.
Married about 1879 to Dock R Cook (1854-1924) Seven Children:
11878-1943 James Franklin Cook
1881-1886 Wilson Cook
1884-1972 William Luke Cook
18871-? Wesley W. Cook
1889-1891 Nora Cook
1893-1933 Edgar Cook
1897-1972 Ollie Cook.
D) James Franklin Harvey Turner b 18 Feb 1856 -13 Jan 1917 Porter Springs, Houston County, TX Marries 1894 in Houston County, Florence Vann Murray. Five children:
1895-1974 Alton Ehteran Turner
1902-1920 Katie Turner
1904-1919 John Harvery Turner
1909-1982 Clester M. Turner
1911-1975 William W. "Billie" Turner
4) William Porter Turner b about 1827. Served in the Civil War. First member of the family to relocated to Porter Springs in Houston County, TX. There by 1860. None of family are recorded in the 1870 census, but I believe they were all in Houston County by then. Even the well-documented founder of Porter Springs, James McIntosh Porter, is not to be found in 1870, so I believe the whole community went uncounted in 1870. William P. Turner died sometime between 1900 and 1910, presumably in Porter Springs, Houston County, Texas.
He had married Mary Caroline Proctor on August 27, 1853 in Sumter County, Alabama. 9 children to this marriage. Note: I have not fully researched this family. There are holes and possibly errors in the dates and names of the children.
1856-1920 Frances Rebecca Turner (married her 1st cousin John Wesley Turner).
1859-1907 John Turner
1862- before 1900 William P Turner, Jr. aka Billy
1862-1876 Mary A. Turner
1865-1943 Robert Lee Turner
1867- ? Louis Turner
1870-1933 James T. F. "Jim" Turner
1873- ? Son I. P. or J. P. Turner
1873 - 1951 Walter Oscar Turner
Notice the repetetion of names between cousins and that Billy and Mary were possibly twins, as well as I.P and Walter O. Turner.
Married Mary P. "Mollie" Creps in 1883. She was the daughter of John Alexander Creps and Eliza Jane Threadgill, all from Anson County, NC and arrived in Texas via Tennesee. Mollie outlived William P. Turner by several decades. Three children of this marriage:
1884 - ? Joseph A. Turner
1887- ? daughter, Willie A. Turner
1890-1974 Mary Elizabeth "Lizzie" Turner.
5) Mary "Polly" Tuner b about 1827. Mary shows up in the 1850 and 1860 census records and no more. It is unknown if she married, died in Sumter County, Alabama, or if she made it to Houston County, Texas with the rest of the family. She is not to be found with the rest of the family in 1880.
6) Doctor Louis Turner b about 1830 D. L. Turner shows up in the 1850 Federal census for Sumter County and also in the 1855 State census of Alabama, head of his own household by then, but with not apparent family. He either relocated and I have not been able to locate him, or he passed away before 1860 in Sumter County.
7) Penelope Turner b abt. 1832 Penelope Turner did make it to Houston County, Texas. She shows up, unmarried, there with her surviving family in 1880. She may have died in Porter Springs between 1880 and 1900, as she is not to be found in the 1900 census of Porter Springs.
8) Susan Turner b abt 1830 Susan Turner shows up with the Turner family in Sumter County in the 1850 and 1860 census records. It is possible that she is the Susan A. Turner who married a John Russell and relocated first to Muskogee County, Georgia, then later to Barbour County, Alabama and filed for a Confederate pension from John Russells service in 1894. There's no culpable evidence either way, save her name and the fact that she was indeed born in NC and that her husband came from the same area.
9) Charlotte Turner b 1833 died before 1900 in Houston County, Texas.
Married on March 24, 1857 William Hull Threadgill (1833-1900).
William Hull Threadgill was the son of Joshua Hull Threadgill of Anson County, NC.
Charlotte and W. H. were both born in Anson County, NC. Joshua Hull Threadgill's land adjoined
that of James Turner, father of Axom Turner. While it is still theory that the family of Patience
Turner and that of Axom Turner are one and the same, the circumstantial evidence is overwhelming.
5 known children were born to that marriage:
1858- 1887 Martha "Mattie" A. Threadgill
1859 Rebecca "Beckie" Threadgill
1861-1895 Sarah Jane Threadgill
1866- 1939 William Threadgill Jr.
1869-1889 Elizabeth "Lizzie" Threadgill
My research of Axum Turner, the Threadgill link and the Turner family is ongoing.
Next: The estate papers of Axum Turner: Found!
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